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Barb-SAN
11-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Yesterday I spent the morning at a 99's meeting at the Gillespie Field hangar of Connie Charles (the local 99's chapter president...see attached link for her inspiring story that was in the San Diego Union Tribune last year).
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050528/news_2m28flier.html

It was such an enjoyable time, I thought I'd mention the 99's as another resource for women here who want to learn more about flying. It's a way to find some positive role models, form friendships with women who fly and LOVE flying, and yes, maybe find a female flight instructor...:angel: .

Here the meetings are open to guests, and they often have informative speakers related to some aspect of aviation. Yesterday the director of education from the Aerospace Museum showed us their presentation to school children. She covered the "four fundamentals of flight" (lift, weight, thrust, drag), and then she had us make some paper airplanes (designs I hadn't seen before) which we then practiced flying around the hangar!

We also went around the group and told our "stories". Folks didn't seem that surprised that I started learning to fly as a way to overcome fear of flying. They were interested to hear about the Flight Fest and opportunity we had in Nashville to "preflight" the 737.

One of the women said her HUSBAND wouldn't fly with her, because HE had a terrible fear of flying, including commercial flight. Several women said their husbands were pilots...and the woman who said "her husband was going to teach her to fly" drew a LOT of laughter. Apparently there's a cliche about "the spouse as teacher".:rolleyes:...not always an ideal situation. :lol:

This chapter also has fund-raising activities. The proceeds go toward scholarships for women to help pay for their flight training.

http://www.ninety-nines.org/

The woman in the second photo down, next to the float plane, is a member of this chapter of the 99's, and a friend. She went to Alaska to take a week of instruction, and got her sea plane rating. She said the scenery there was just breath-taking. She also took glider lessons in Arizona, and said that really helped her feel more confident about flying without an engine. You've got only one chance to do the landing though...no go-arounds possible.


Fran Bera is famous in the aviation world, and also very active in the 99's, great, fun woman, very friendly and welcoming to the newcomers too. She said she's been flying for 66 years now, and still flies at 80+ years old! She also has a hangar at Gillespie Field (and was the inspiration for my comment to Rebecca about looking for one of those "fly-in houses".)


http://www.ninety-nines.org/franbera.html

So, ladies....if you want to take a peak at the aviation world from a woman's perspective, check out your local 99's! It could be the first step to a surprising change in your life!:)

Barb-SAN
11-21-2006, 04:14 PM
Barb,

Please explain in ten words or less why I would want a female flight instructor :confused:

Less distraction :D (And she might have a brother). (My 10 words or less).

However...to clarify,...I've had 2 male flight instructors...who were/are very good instructors and pilots. I've only had one flight with a female instructor, and she was excellent...very detail oriented, and she explained things very thoroughly. She gave up a corporate pilot job because she decided her first love was teaching, and she'd rather be a CFII. I hope to fly with her again for more instruction one of these days.

Actually, I don't think gender is as important as personality and how well you communicate with each other (given equal technical ability, knowledge, teaching skills, and safety-consciousness, of course). Some women might feel more relaxed with a female instructor.

Kari...guess you knew I couldn't keep it to 10 words...ha ha....

Now...Aerobat Barb...your turn! What are the advantages of taking lessons from a female instructor?

aerobat
11-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Now...Aerobat Barb...your turn! What are the advantages of taking lessons from a female instructor?

More precisely, what are the advantages for a female student pilot in having a female instructor?

Empathy is a big one...especially for a female student who feels overwhelmed at first and would be embarrassed to say so to a man. I make it clear that I, too, was overwhelmed at first. I can add a virtual hug :hug: to many steps on the path to the license.

Positive role-model--another one. I did it; you can, too. Women can do anything. :macho:.

Not all women are looking for these attributes. And some definitely want the undercurrent of sexual dynamics that go with having a cute young male CFI.

(ahem...Barb-SAN, wanna comment on that??? :lol::lol:)

On the flip side, I have to say I really enjoy rubbing shoulders with a lot of those cute young male flight students. :lol::angel:;)

Overall, my favorite female students are my female aerobatic students. :thumbsup:It's just good chemistry, for whatever reasons.

Barb

Barb-SAN
11-21-2006, 11:14 PM
(ahem...Barb-SAN, wanna comment on that??? :lol::lol:)Barb

:lol: :lol:

aerobat
11-21-2006, 11:35 PM
The Ninety-Nines are involved with several fear-of-flying programs. The two longest-running ones are in Seattle and San Francisco. Here's the one in Seattle:

http://www.fearofflyingclinic.org/index.html

If you chase their links, you'll see that 99s are very active in several FoF programs around the country.

I do have to say, though, that the image of the Space Needle with wings is a tad hokey...:rolleyes:

Now, the Austin chapter once asked me to write them a theme song, and after some thought, I did. It will be posted shortly over on Club TF :lol:, with the subject line "The Little Middle Thingie". ;) I have posted it on TF before, but it's probably time for it again.

Now, Barb, what kind of reply is :lol: :lol: ?? Surely there's more to say about this...my primary, aerobatic and instrument instructors knocked me off my feet :love:. It's just the way it is up there...:tongue:

Barb-SAN
11-22-2006, 01:17 AM
Surely there's more to say about this...my primary, aerobatic and instrument instructors knocked me off my feet :love:. It's just the way it is up there...:tongue:

Barb, Care to elaborate? ;) Did you sing them that little song??? :tongue:

O.K....let's just say that I think the ideal is "just enough" chemistry with those cute young male instructors to keep you coming back for another lesson :lol: , but not so much that you lose focus on flying. :blush:

No question there's a certain "something" about being up in the air in a cozy little airplane with your very life depending on your instructor. That can lead to a very special kind of bonding....a potential for a deep friendship, at least. Just as long as HE doesn't get distracted by that "undercurrent" :eek:.

This could be a reason that husbands might prefer that their WIVES learn to fly from female instructors! :angel:

I didn't realize the 99's were involved with FF programs, Cool! Have you seen the "Wings of Their Own" DVD yet? (Advertised on the 99's website, linked here: http://www.makebelievetv.com/WingsOfTheirOwn.html

aerobat
11-22-2006, 01:39 AM
Barb, Care to elaborate? ;) Did you sing them that little song??? :tongue:

They have all heard it, oh yes. The memorable reponse came from Bill, my instrument instructor (mentioned prior as the Air Serv bush pilot). He said:

"what do you mean, LITTLE middle thingie??" :blush:

Barb-SAN
11-22-2006, 01:48 AM
They have all heard it, oh yes. The memorable reponse came from Bill, my instrument instructor (mentioned prior as the Air Serv bush pilot). He said:

"what do you mean, LITTLE middle thingie??" :blush: Of course guys would say that!!:lol: :lol: :rolleyes:

aerobat
11-22-2006, 02:12 AM
Truth to tell, about half the guys--pilots and nonpilots alike--who heard this song were left puzzled, saying, "well, what IS it, anyway"?. :confused:

Whereas about 99% of the women got it. :)

Barb-SAN
11-22-2006, 02:32 AM
Truth to tell, about half the guys--pilots and nonpilots alike--who heard this song were left puzzled, saying, "well, what IS it, anyway"?. :confused: :)

You CAN'T be serious!! Maybe it was the "little" that confused them. :rolleyes: Or, maybe they were hoping you would explain it to them!!

aerobat
11-22-2006, 02:53 AM
I am serious!

Maybe we should do a poll...:lol::tongue:

Barb-SAN
11-22-2006, 03:11 AM
I am serious!

Maybe we should do a poll...:lol::tongue:

Well, so far you have 11 views, and no responses.... Maybe you need to add a question at the end of the song..."Do you get it"? ;)

Barb-SAN
11-26-2006, 07:50 PM
Could one of you change your name and/or your avatar? :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: Em....I've always wanted to have a twin....;)

Barb-SAN
11-26-2006, 07:56 PM
I've been giving this thread some thought. Not deep, meaningful thought, I must add. I would honestly, honestly, honestly prefer a male instructor. Quiet at the back, it's not like you think! The whole thing about showing that women can do "anything" can work either way. As women we do feel not only like we can do "anything," but also like we must. There's a heck of a lot of pressure there ... and it's not men that put this sort of pressure on us - it's other women. For me, it's nice to be able to fly and not feel as though I have to be Perfect Superwoman at everything. I'm much more comfortable screaming my head off in front of a man ... there's no pressure there to be marvellous at everything.

There's some evidence of deep thought in that reply.:tongue:

I'm not sure I want to be screaming in front of anyone...it's embarrassing either way. However, there are some (NOT all) men with whom I feel VERY calm, and maybe there is some hormonal (pheremonal?) chemistry going on. One of those guys would be my ideal instructor. I wouldn't expect any less pressure from a male instructor than a female one as far as requiring MY competence in learning to fly the plane. After all, it's his/her life we're talking about here too, when I have the controls. :D

Barb-SAN
11-27-2006, 03:21 PM
Do you know, he has the patience of a saint when I've tried to spin us both to our deaths. Can you imagine a woman showing the same?

Calling my twin.....:rolleyes: :lol: