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Passenger Mark
01-04-2005, 08:32 PM
Subject: English - The Language Worth Pondering

If you ever feel stupid, then just read on. If you've learned to speak
fluent English, you must be a genius! This little treatise on the
lovely language we share is only for the brave. Peruse at your leisure,
English lovers. Reasons why the English language is so hard to learn:

1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
2) The farm was used to produce produce.
3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse
4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.
6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to
present the present.
8) A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.
9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
10) I did not object to the object.
11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
13) They were too close to the door to close it.
14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.
16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail
18) After a number of injections my jaw got number.
19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?

There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine
in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French
fries in France (Surprise!). Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads,
which aren't sweet, are meat.

Quicksand works slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is
neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. And why is it that writers write
but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?

If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth?
One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese? Doesn't it seem crazy that
you can make amends but not one amend. If you have a bunch of odds and
ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it? Is it an
odd, or an end?

If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats
vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? In what language do people
recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by
ship? Have noses that run and feet that smell?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and
a wise guy are opposites? You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a
language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you
fill in a form by filling it out, and in which, an alarm goes off by
going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the
creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all.
That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the
lights are out, they are invisible.

P.S. - Why doesn't "Buick" rhyme with "quick"?

xiknal
01-04-2005, 08:46 PM
ENGLISH IS TOUGH STUFF

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.

Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.

Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.

Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.

Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.

Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.

Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.

Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.

Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, @#%$, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.

Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.

Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!! :cry

-- Author Unknown

Strange333
01-08-2005, 05:21 AM
Try this on for size straight from the Webster's Universal Unabridged Dictionary (OK, how sad is it that I have one of those at my desk???):

Iterable: Capable of being repeated.
Iterant: To do a thing a second time, to repeat
Iterate: To repeat; to utter or do a second time
Reiterate: To repeat; to utter or do a second time

Shouldn't reiterate be to utter or do a third time...or maybe it is the forth?? I speak spanish and french. I'm learning german and am going to pick up greek next semester. Of all the languages I've studies, english seems to be the hardest.

Here's another one I don't understand: Why is the verb "to be" irregular in most (or all??) languages?

ie...

To Be

I am We are
You are You(pl) are
He/She/It is They are

When it should be...

I be We be
You be You(pl) be
He bes They be

French and please excuse the lack of accents...my computer is not capable of those, that I know of.

Etre

Je suis Nous sommes
Tu es Vous etes
Il/Elle/On est Ils/Elles sont

Spainsh is the same way with Ser and Estar....why?? Anyone know?

Nich

LesliePHX
01-08-2005, 06:12 AM
A coworker told me he corrected his child when the child, trying to speak correctly based on the rules he'd learned, said, "Amn't I ..."

Coworker corrected him: "No, it's not 'Amn't I,' it's 'Aren't I ..." Coworker noted that "Amn't I" really makes a lot more sense than "Aren't I."

But dem's de rules.

As I understand it, one of the most frustrating things for foreigners learning English is our weird use of prepositions. I can't remember the specifics, but several foreign folks have said that our use of prepositions (on the table/in bed/, etc.) is a frustration when learning English.

I'd be happy to snap back, "Oh, yeah? Well at least we don't have male/female articles for nouns ya have to memorize!" But that's mainly a gripe about the French so I don't. :)

xiknal
01-08-2005, 07:15 AM
In linguistics we have the term 'iterative' for an affix which, when added to a verb, suggests repetition. Re- is an iterative prefix.

The verb 'to go' is often irregular too. It certainly is in Mayan languages...whereas their solution to the copula ('to be') is to not have it at all! Pig-you! Blonde-me! Tense is provided by temporal adverbs, as in k'ek'en-ech ka'achih, behela'e' y-et t-u laak' k'iin 'pig-you long ago, today, and always'

These are grammatically complex languages in many respects, sometimes changing pronouns when changing tense, and using different pronouns for transitive and intransitive verbs (they are in a class of languages called 'ergative'), with many other exotic qualities, but are nowhere near as irregular and baffling as English! We are so lucky to be native speakers. :)

Strange333
01-09-2005, 03:40 AM
Xiknal (It's Barb...right???)

I can't imagine not being a native English speaker. It would be terrible to learn to speak English. The native speakers are not what you would call...great... Just today I found myself correcting this poor lady. She did the classic ME and my husband ARE....I just can't stand it!!! (OK, how rude am I?)

I am very interested in the Mayan languages (as of about five minutes ago!!!) To be honest, I find myself becoming less interested in learning another language in the Latin/Germanic/ect... family. I've considered taking up an Asian language, but have decided against it. Maybe something in your area would be very interesting? How does one go about finding a school that has a Mayan language department (or something in that field)? Being the linguistic goddess that you are :hail what would you recommend?

Thanks,

Nich

xiknal
01-09-2005, 07:28 PM
Nich, the best places in the US to study Mayan languages are: (1) here in Austin (UT/Austin) and UNC Chapel Hill. I can tell you more if you'd like to PM me!:)

Barb

Expatbrit
02-14-2005, 01:23 PM
and then there's German with its THREE genders "der, die, and das" which also change to "den, die, das" and "dem, der, dem" and "des, der des" depending on the case (accusative, dative, genetive" AND all adjectives following them also change ending depending on the case! And then there's the wonderful word order which dictates that the verb goes all the way to the end of the sentence in some cases!! I dunno - is English really the most difficult?

And only if you're VERY interested, check out The Awful German Language by Mark Twain http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/awfgrmlg.html

EditorASC
02-22-2005, 06:19 PM
A man flew from Boston to San Francisco. He didn't like the menu on the plane, so refused to eat. By the time he got to SFO, he was very hungry.

When he got into the SFO cab, and was asked what destination he wanted, he replied to the cabby, "Where can I get Scrod?"

The cabby replied: "I have been driving this cab for 30 years, but that is the first time I ever heard it in the past-perfect tense!"


:tongue:

Agne
05-16-2005, 02:01 PM
As I understand it, one of the most frustrating things for foreigners learning English is our weird use of prepositions. I can't remember the specifics, but several foreign folks have said that our use of prepositions (on the table/in bed/, etc.) is a frustration when learning English.


True !Another frustrating things are phrasal verbs. Get on, get up, get by, drive off.. :confused: And I have difficulties with simple past and present perfect . I don't understand where to use them. In the Italian language, we often use only one kind of past, even if there are a lot of past tenses.
But I don't think that English is the most difficult language. Compared to German it is quite simple. And English is everywhere: songs, movies, books, internet. You have more chances to learn, if you want.

The verb "to be" is irregular also in Italian:

Io sono
tu sei
egli è
noi siamo
voi siete
essi sono

There are a lot of irregular verbs in Italian. I don't think it is an easy language to learn. Has anyone here ever tried?