xiknal
09-19-2004, 10:56 PM
I had added this to the "Banned from SOAR" thread, but then decided it might be better to set it up as its own new thread.
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I have just carefully read the last exchanges over there. I saw right away that there is a lot of material--especially in Ken's post, but in others, including Tom's--that might be a good point of departure *away* from the sniping tit-for-tat and toward a constructive discussion about some important issues that concern us all.
Specifically, I wonder whether we might tackle: the origins of FoF, the reasons it manifests as/when it does, the ways in which various therapies work on it (without creating any sort of hierarchy), how the concept of placebo figures in...
What do effective therapies have in common? Is it truly impossible to be cured? What is it like (in terms of anxiety spikes) for "normal" fliers out there--are they flatliners? I think not!
Anyway, without actually taking the first big bite just yet, I'd like to suggest we take Ken's lengthy farewell post over there as a point of departure and have us a good round table about this territory of phobia. We ALL know a lot about it, and between us, we have keys and insights and tools gleaned not only from SOAR and other therapies, but from critical self-examination.
Ken, would you be willing to repost appropriate parts of your statement to get this started?
Thanks!
Barb
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I have just carefully read the last exchanges over there. I saw right away that there is a lot of material--especially in Ken's post, but in others, including Tom's--that might be a good point of departure *away* from the sniping tit-for-tat and toward a constructive discussion about some important issues that concern us all.
Specifically, I wonder whether we might tackle: the origins of FoF, the reasons it manifests as/when it does, the ways in which various therapies work on it (without creating any sort of hierarchy), how the concept of placebo figures in...
What do effective therapies have in common? Is it truly impossible to be cured? What is it like (in terms of anxiety spikes) for "normal" fliers out there--are they flatliners? I think not!
Anyway, without actually taking the first big bite just yet, I'd like to suggest we take Ken's lengthy farewell post over there as a point of departure and have us a good round table about this territory of phobia. We ALL know a lot about it, and between us, we have keys and insights and tools gleaned not only from SOAR and other therapies, but from critical self-examination.
Ken, would you be willing to repost appropriate parts of your statement to get this started?
Thanks!
Barb